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Jeff G. commented: I happened upon this article, and I'm really glad I did. I am a libertarian who recognizes that there are distinctions between Objectivism and Libertarianism, and cannot be unceremoniously lumped together.

Would you consider the modern libertarian movement in any way an offshoot of the Objectivist movement, or are they distinct movements? Would appreciate some Randian thoughts on the issue.

Greg S. replied: I think of the modern libertarian movement as having coalesced sometime between 1968 and 1971. I wouldn’t say that it was an offshoot of the Objectivist movement, but Rand was certainly a major influence on some of its leaders and most of its followers. Also, the social relationships formed through the Nathaniel Branden Institute (which gave lecture courses on Rand’s Objectivism) probably played a role in the formation of the libertarian movement, and it may be that (as Jennifer Burns suggests) the closing of NBI in 1968 created a sort of vacuum that helped the movement to form.

Anarchism (specifically the form endorsed by Rothbard) was the dominant force in that movement initially, and the confusion between freedom and anarchy (which I regard as its opposite) played (and continues to play) a really distorting role in libertarian thought—including in the thought of non-anarchist libertarian philosophers, such as Nozick. My sense is that, though anarchism remains a significant factor, its influence among self-professed libertarians and libertarian organizations has waned significantly, and I don’t know that anything has really taken its place. What I see now is more of a loose knit community of people and groups who vaguely favor free markets, and who share some of the same influences (including both Rand and the anarchists).

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Karl M. writes: http://www.cato.org/mission

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Greg S. replies: Karl, I more or less agree with the statement you quote from Cato, especially the point that all of the terms to name "those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution" have problems with them. Part of the reason that there are problems is that there isn't much consensus on what those principles are. There are a number of reasons for this, but one is that "anarchism" is seen as a close relative of these principles instead of as one form of the opposite principle--viz. rule by brute force. The fetish for anarchism seems to be fading in libertarian circles, so this isn't as big an issue as it once was. But until there is a consensus among self-professed libertarians that the disagreement between anarchists and proponents of a rights-respecting government is not a debate within a single ideological movement but a debate between fundamentally different ideologies, I don't think that "libertarian" is a term anyone should adopt as a name for his own ideology--at least not without being explicit about where he stands on this issue.

This doesn't mean that I'm opposed to working with organizations that call themselves libertarian, when I judge that they're predominantly good (as I think is the case with CATO), and I'm happy to appear on panels or in books with anarchists as well, just as I am with socialists and others, so long as it's done in a way that makes clear that there's a fundamental disagreement that people need to consider, rather than presenting us as fundamentally aligned. (In fact, I'm editing a book now that has several self-professed libertarian contributors, including two anarchists.)

Boaz's book, which you link to above, has much to recommend it, but it plays coy on this issue. Anyone who knows anything about the history of the libertarian movement knows that anarchism has played a significant part in it, and book on "The Libertarian Mind" needs to acknowledge that and take a position on it.

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